Calvin Miller
"When the Aardvark Parked on the Ark"
 
Program #3324
First air date March 25, 1990
 


     
Biography
Dr. Calvin Miller has been pastor of Westside Church in Omaha, Nebraska since 1966. During that time, the congregation has grown from ten members to more than 2,500. Calvin is a remarkable poet and the author of twenty-three books of popular theology and inspiration including, The Singer, The Song, A Hunger for Meaning, When the Aardvark Parked on the Ark, Leadership and A Requiem for Love. [Biographical information is correct as of the broadcast date noted above.]

"When the Aardvark Parked on the Ark" 
Some years ago I became interested in children's poetry. An artist friend of mine, Mark Harrison, and I were standing in the back of a Walden's Bookstore reading the latest offering from Dr. Seuss, which I think at that time was The Butter Battle Book. As we read through it, he turned to me and said, "You know, somebody should be writing this kind of thing for the Christian marketplace." I thought about his proposition and before long we were actually into it. I developed four or five poems and gave them to him. He laid them all out and made them ready for publication. We looked at them and decided that maybe this was a good idea.

We worked up more and finally, after a few months, there were about a hundred leaves of the book, When the Aardvark Parked on the Ark. We mailed it to Harper and Row. The publisher called me back within a couple of days and said, "We like this stuff. When can we have the rest of it?" I said, "Well, actually the rest of it isn't written yet, but as soon as it is written I will be glad to mail it to you." They put up with us for a period of three or four more months until the book was finished.

It was a wonderful new experiment for me. I think I have fallen more and more in love with children's poetry. There is a certain sound to it — a certain mesmerizing rhythm and rhyme that makes it all so alive. Children are so flattering. They learn them, not because they set out to memorize them but because they read them over and over, or perhaps their parents do. Before long, it is a part of their life and their world.

I'd like for Barbara and I to read a few selections from the book When the Aardvark Parked on the Ark. The first poem I would like to read is called, "If There Were No 'B's." I am speaking of the letter "B," of course. If there were no B's, for instance, ABC, CBS and NBC would all be in big trouble. This book celebrates how thankful we can all be for one little letter of the alphabet.

If There Were No "B's"

If there were no "B's,"
   it sure would be sad.
We'd have to ride "ikes"
   and sleep in our "eds."
And kids who played trumpets
   would play in the "arid."
We'd eat our "ham-urgers"
   at the "ham-urger" stands.

At ice cream cafes
   Eating "utterscotch'' sundaes
Arid "anana" splits
   So utterly "affled,"
We'd just sit and sit.

All hares would be "unnies."
   (It sure would sound funny)
And sweet little "a'ies"'
   Would not seem so huggy.
Their mothers would stroll them
   In "lack" "a'y" "uggies."

If muscles were "iceps"
   And minds were all "rains"
We'd all hit an "ase-all"
   Or play with our trains,
And carry "um-rellas"
   To keep off the rains.

We'd have to ride "uses"
   And "uckle" our "oots"
And "utton" our "lazers"
   Down over our suits.
And sweet little "irds"
   Would fly as "irds" do
High in the sky
   Where the skies are quite "lue."

Ever since I was "orn"
   I was thankful for skies
And good "ooks" and "row-oats"
   And "straw-erry" pies,
Chocolate milkshakes
   and "ras-erry" freezes
And maples and oaks and "mul-erry" trees.
   "Ut" mostly I'm thankful
Whenever I please
To use hundreds and hundreds
   And hundreds of "B's.

I understand now why Paul says in Ephesians 5:20 that we should give thanks for everything — maybe, even the letter "B."

One of the poems I developed a little bit later as I was writing this book was a poem called "Thin Minny." "Thin Minny" celebrates that eternal neurosis that Americans live through. We are always too fat, trying to be something else and release the thinner person who is inside of us. Barbara and I would like to read this little celebration of an agonizing problem.

Thin Minny

"I'm simply too fat!" cried Minny McBride
When she found herself stuck in a slippery
   slide.
And there halfway down she wailed and she
   cried.
"I must lose some weight, I've grown far
   too wide.
I"m embarrassed to find myself wedged in
   this slide.
I'm giving up chocolates," wept Minny
   McBride,
"Spaghetti and bonbons and everything
   fried."

Six firemen came, they pushed and they
   pried,
Until they popped Minny right out of that
   slide.
"I then lost some weight and regained my
   pride
But I went overboard with my calorie
   guide."

So Minny grew skinny — just three inches
   wide.
And the first gust of wind
Blew her back up the slide.
I think about James Thurber who said, "It is about as bad to fall over on your face as to fall over on your back." And, what Paul said in I Timothy 3:11, that we probably should use a little temperance in everything we do.

It is always dangerous to play hard to get. We want to celebrate a little poem that tells how dangerous it can be. This poem will make utter sense to you if you remember that Razberry Mary worked on a dairy and Strawberry Sherry ran a ferry boat and Blueberry Terry worked out on the prairie.

Blueberry Terry

"Sweet Strawberry Sherry,
   will you ever marry?"
Asked Blueberry Terry,
   but she shook her head.
"I find marriage scary,
   dear Blueberry Terry,
Ask Razberry Mary to marry instead."

"I'll not marry Terry,"
   said Razberry Mary,
"for Blueberry Terry
Resides on the prairie:
I won't leave my dairy
   to follow him West."
"Then you I can't marry,"
   said Blueberry Terry
"I won't leave the prairie
To work for a dairy
Dear Strawberry Sherry.
Please marry me now."

"No, Terry, like Mary,
I do not like prairie.
I live on a ferry
And never would marry
A man so content to care for his cows."

"Very well, Sherry.
Very well, Mary.
I'll leave the prairie.
Will one of you marry
Me now?"

"I don't find you handsome,"
   said Razberry Mary.
"I don't find you wealthy,"
   said Strawberry Sherry.
And since you're not handsome
   and do not have wealth,
We think that we'll soon marry
   somebody else."

So Blueberry Terry
   returned to the prairie
and rarely saw Mary and Sherry,
   but then
Mary and Sherry
   at their ferry and dairy never
Were asked if they'd marry again.

At the dairy and ferry
   they grew old and thin.
They were both nearly ninety
   when they hobbled in,
"Dear Blueberry Terry,"
   said Strawberry Sherry,
"I"ve changed my mind Terry,
   I'll marry you now."

"Yes Terry, Dear Terry,"
   said Razberry Mary, "I'll
Marry you Terry,
   I'll marry and how!"

"I don't find you pretty,
   I don't find you wealthy
And since you are ugly
   and have no real wealth
I think I'll return to my cows
   and my prairie
And there I may marry somebody else.
I don't really know who I'll marry now,
I'm living alone surrounded by cows."

In a small cemetery
   they buried old Mary and
Poor lonely Sherry,
   whose tombstones there read:
"Here Strawberry Sherry and Razberry Mary
   were buried, unmarried
      — both single and dead."

Old Blueberry Terry —
   their man from the prairie —
Felt so alone as his final years sped
He married his Guernsey
   far out in the prairie
Delighted he'd finally
   found something to wed.

I think this little poem illustrates that it is sometimes dangerous to play hard to get in case you don't get got.

I would like to read a poem that I think illustrates that it is also good to know when to call back the struggle and strife in life and to ease back a little bit. This is about a lobster named Leonardo who got caught because he didn't know when to quit charging ahead.

Leonardo Lobster

It was senseless, but Leonardo kept
   charging the cage.
He was caught in a trap and he
   swam in a rage.
He knew he was done for and
   soon would be dead
When he suddenly thought what
   his father once said.

"If ever you enter a trap, Leonardo,
   you don't have
To find yourself stewed, baked, and dead.
You can't fight the trap,
   my two-pincered son,
By charging the steel that
   lies out ahead."

Leonardo grew calm and quit
   charging ahead.
His BB-like eyes rose up from his head.
He looked at the floor of his trap
   for a door
And clearly could see there was none.

But as he swam up to the top of his cell
He found the small window
   through which he fell.
He swam swiftly up, and rid of his rage,
He soon found himself outside of his cage.

"The reason all lobsters wind up in pails,
With elegant people eating their tails,
Is that they don't
   try enough different ways
To escape from the prisons of men.

It does little good
   when you know you are caught
To keep charging at walls,
   again and again."

Leonardo became a great liberator.
He moved through the traps
   and swam without fear.
Whenever he saw a brother entrapped,
He was careful, but unafraid to swim near.
"Look up, look up!"
He would cry through the gloom,
"Or this trap where you struggle
Will soon be your tomb.

The reason all lobsters wind up in pails,
With elegant people eating their tails,
Is that they don't try
   enough different ways
To escape from the prisons of men.

It does little good
   when you know you are caught
To keep charging at walls,
   again and again.
Look up! Look up! Look up!"
Perhaps if we did a little more looking up and a little less charging ahead, we would get a little further.

When I write children's poems, I am always deeply concerned about how a child is going to see the event. I try to see it through their eyes. One of the things I have tried to see through a child's eyes is what happened to Jonah when he was in the belly of the fish and when he tried to pray for God to get him out. I think this is what he prayed:
Jonah's Prayer

When Jonah was swallowed by a fish...
   Slosh, slosh, slurp, slurp!
He felt so foolish kneeling down.
   Slosh, slosh, slurp, slurp!
He prayed: "Help God, help..."
   Slosh, slosh, slurp, slurp!
"If you can make a fish this big...
   Surely you can make him burp!"
As pastor of a very large church, I do lots of weddings. Most all of them are formal and well, well planned. Sometimes I get a little weary with all of them. There are so many. I can see this kind of wedding perhaps as a break to the normal sort of wedding. It is about two rather large animals who got married in a swamp in Africa.
Formal Wedding

A great hippocerous and a rhinopotamus
Fell in love in an African swamp.
They were muddy and cruddy,
   but fully agreed
To be wed in the weeds and the reeds.
The guests who attended spoke
   words that were harsh.
They marveled that marriages
   made in a marsh
Were such murky affairs
   that the clean nearly cried
When they sang, "Here comes
   the scum-covered bride.

While stuck in the muck,
   they both said "I do."
Inspired in the mire,
   they pledged to be true.
The music was brought
   by an African duck,
Who quacked out "Because"
   and "God Bless the Muck."

When the guests were all gone
   on the honeymoon night
The swamp had become
   a muck-lover's delight.
They plunged 'neath the mud
   and kissed in the muck
And wished each other
   the best kind of luck.

The hippocerous cooed,
   "My sweet rhinopotamus,
There's just you and I,
   but there's still quite a lot of us.
Our wedding was lovely,
   all formal with crud.
Oh, bliss that is ours
   to be stuck in the mud."
Back to the Bible poems. Often I have wondered what Abraham at 90 thought about that day he came in from the field and found his wife, Sarah, knitting booties. I have a feeling that this is the conversation that might have occurred between them.
I'm Gonna Have a Baby, Abie!

Haven't you found
   that the mothers you know
Quit having babies at forty or so.
But Sarah at eighty
   though wrinkled and gray
Sat knitting booties
   through most of the day.

When Abraham said to her,
   "Sarah you're knitting,
I feel that it's fitting
   that you tell me why."
Old Sarah just winked,
   then smiled and replied,
I'm going to have a baby, Abie."

It sounded so funny,
   they giggled out loud,
They bellowed and laughed
   and attracted a crowd
Who asked Abraham:
"What is so funny —
   could you tell us maybe?"
"My Sarah is eighty, expecting a baby!"

When one of them saw
   she was knitting some booties
They broke out in laughing
   and roaring and hooting.
One of them mocked her:
   "She's quite off her rocker!
Dear Lady, you're eighty,
   you can't have a baby!

They hooted and howled;
   for nine months they roared.
They made so much noise
   that they nearly ignored
The sound of the postman
   who knocked at the door,
"Hey fellas! A letter from Abie has come.
Old Sarah his wife has a new little son!"

At last they quit laughing,
And yet they felt joy,
And all ran to Abie's
To see his new boy.
They all smiled at Abie
   and said "Happy Baby!"
While Abraham beamed as proud as could be.
But God smiled down on nobody other
Than Sarah, the old one,
   the happy new mother!
What a wonderful little story to come from the Bible. It is a story of inspiration and faith.

The next poem has a principle of the Bible. It says that it is good for us to be obedient. If you have been a parent or anticipate being one, this either has or will happen to you. It is about a little boy who would not eat his veggies.
Jonathan Herrington Barrington Green

"You can't get down
   'til you've finished your beans,
Jonathan Herrington Barrington Green!
It just isn't right to eat what you please
Seventeen helpings of 'roni and cheese,
One half a pie and a strawberry freeze
And not finish one little
   helping of beans!"

On the thirteenth of May,
   (ninety two seventeen)
Jonathan Herrington Barrington Green
Looked at his plate of uneaten beans
And said to his mother, Gladys Maureen,
"I won't eat these veggies.
I hate these green beans!"

"Then you'll never get down,"
   said his mother.
So he sat them all day
   and looked far away,
And all through the night
   'til the fourteenth of May.

"May I get down now, Mother,
   sweet Gladys Maureen?"
"Jonathan Herrington Barrington Green,
are you sure you have
   eaten every last bean?"

"No!" said the boy.
"'No!" said his mother.
And so passed away
The fourteenth of May.

Jonathan sat with his chin stuck way out
For a month and a day
   and a day and a month,
'Til the summer was gone
   and autumn had come,
And a day and a month
   and a month and a day
'Til skies became gray
   and the snow fell around
And settled upon his old plate of beans.

"Oh, Mother, dear Mother,
   sweet Gladys Maureen,
It's snowing all over
   my plate of green beans.
Please may I get down
   from this table and go,
For I hate my green beans
   when they're cold as the snow."
"No, not 'til you've finished
   every last bean!"

Another year passed, then twenty-one more
And Jonathan's mother was now eighty-four
And the beans didn't look so good anymore.
"Please, Mother, these beans are too old —
   May I go?"
His mother was aged but firmly said, "No!"

Jonathan Green never left home again.
He never played football
   or made a new friend.
He nevermore studied or traveled or wed.
For fifty-five years he never ate bread
He never slept in a fluffy soft bed.
In his ninetieth year
   when his beard had grown long
He choked down the beans
by the light of the moon.

"Mmm! These weren't so bad!"
   said Jonathan Green,
"I wish now I'd listened
   to Gladys Maureen."
I think this little poem illustrates how beautifully true is the Fifth Commandment that we ought to listen to our fathers and mothers. If we don't obey, we can miss a lot of life.

As the final poem, I would like to read what is my favorite from this little book. It is an eternal them — the theme of a caterpillar becoming something better than that, something more noble, something more lofty. It is a theme that I suppose pleases every ear. Life ought to know some transformation and some elevated living here and there. It is about a reluctant caterpillar named Catherine.

Catherine Caterpillar

Mother caterpillar turned to her daughter
   one day
And said, "My sweet Catherine, I'm going
   away
And I cannot come back — I'm sorry to say."

She clipped the last threads on her bright
vnew cocoon
And then turned to Catherine again,
"Well, Cathy, I'm going in now —
Are you sure you quite understand,
Can you spin the webbing
and knit the silk threads
And fleece the insides
   of your own little pod?"
"Yes, Mother, I can,"
   said Catherine Caterpillar.

"I've woven the uprights, just as you said
And tied off three hundred and seventy
   threads.
I am sure that before the birth of the
   moon
I'll be more than prepared for my own
   cocoon."

They kissed goodbye on a dried milk-pod
   twig
And the old woolly worm adjusted her wig
And crawled on into her vacant cocoon.
Catherine was scared, "Is it true I will
   lose all my legs ..."
"Yes, Catherine, almost — you get to keep
   six."
"Only six — oh, what then?"
Her mother knitted the last thirty threads
And answered her from her own downy bed.
"Catherine, you'll never walk, ever
   again!"
She pulled the last threads and closed her
cocoon and was gone.

Cathy spent thirteen days weaving and
   webbing,
Packing in fleece and cutting the threads.
When the day at last came to enter her
   pod,
Catherine looked sadly down at her two
   hundred legs
And spoke very sharply to God;
"God, this is Catherine Caterpillar
I don't mean to gripe, but you haven't
   been fair,
And I haven't got long now to talk.
Already I feel a frost in the air.

"But God, it's like this, I've two hundred
   legs
And while it's an effort to climb up a
   stalk
I enjoy so much just crawling along
and taking a nice autumn walk.
Please God, if you don't mind, could I
   keep my legs?"
But God only smiled and pulled out the
   moon.
While Catherine looked down at her two-
   hundred legs
And stomped her way into her fleecy
   cocoon.

For a hundred and seventy days the frost
   gathered.
God smiled as snowflakes piled high on the
   thread
And Catherine slept warm in her soft
   fleecy bed.

And seven cold moons smiled down on the
   snow
'Til in May God came rapping on
   Catherine's cocoon.
"It's terribly dark," said Catherine in
   fright,
"I must clip these threads and let in some
   light."
She chewed through the webbing and cut the
   silk threads
And crawled out and stretched, then
   suddenly thought
As she looked at her bed,
"My legs are gone ... Oh, what will I do?
I cannot go far."
She looked and saw a winged creature who
Landed in splendor on the old milkpod
   twig.

"Catherine Caterpillar, the morning is
   bright!"
"Mother, it's you! I've lost all my legs,
   I think
      I will die."
"Nonsense: you're at the beginning of life —
You're not going to die.
You're through crawling, dear Catherine,
   look up at
      The Sky!
When God takes our legs he expects us to fly."

Catherine looked back at the weathered
   cocoon and
Tried her new wings, they both rose and
   flew.
"I never knew, Mother, that skies were so
   blue."
"Stretch out your wings and float on the
   wind
And tell me, do you want to be what you've
   been,
And crawl in the dust and have legs once
   again."

"Oh Mother, I'm flying! Today all is sky!
And surely God's watching as we flutter
   by.
He watches the winters and guards the
   cocoons
And smiles while the snow falls beneath
   the icy moons.
He laughs at our fears while the winter
   wind sings,
And wakes us to fly on filigreed wings."

Interview with Calvin Miller & Luci Shaw
Interviewed by David Hardin

David Hardin: You have heard a little bit about Calvin but let me tell you something about Luci Shaw. Luci is a book publisher who commits much of her time to teaching and writing. She is also a trustee of the Sunday Evening Club, for which I am very grateful. She is just back from a teaching stint at Regent University in Vancouver.

Let's start by talking a little bit about the fact that so many people are interested in creative writing but are afraid to start or don't know how to start. How did you get started, Luci?

Luci Shaw: I had a very minor start because I started writing poetry as soon as I could put pen to paper. I had the advantage of a British education. My parents read a lot of good literature to me, even as a very young child. I wrote a lot of very melodramatic poetry in my youth of which I am ashamed today. That's how I got started. I thought everybody wrote poetry!

Hardin: How did you get started, Calvin?

Calvin Miller: I wrote melodramatic sermons for a long time. I started out that way. I was down maybe five years in the first little church I pastored before somebody in my congregation said, "Some of these sermons really ought to be printed." During the Lenten season I was preaching about the cross and that was how I got started. At her suggestion, I put a manuscript together. She helped me edit it. Barb, my wife, typed it. I was off and running.

Hardin: So that's how you got started. How about you, Luci, who encouraged you or mentored you into having the courage to submit something to a publication?

Shaw: I didn't submit anything for publication until I was at Wheaton College. My mentor there was Dr. Clyde Kilby, a C. S. Lewis specialist, and a wonderful teacher. He would regularly say when I presented my poems to him, "Send this off to the ‘Atlantic' tomorrow," or "Let's get this into print." In fact, his mentorship continued over the years until his death. When I was 29, I can remember that he gave me 29 stamped self-addressed envelopes just as an encouragement for me to send off my writing. That was one of the best gifts I ever received.

Hardin: Why do you write?

Shaw: I think something snags on your mind. You hear a phrase or a rhyme or you catch a connection in the creative world. It moves itself into words. You put it on paper and it gathers more words to itself. It is a mysterious process.

Hardin: How about you, Calvin?

Miller: I think Luci is right. There are just various snags. I think basically people write to be read as an artist paints to have his pictures exhibited. In my case, I found myself thinking about what C. S. Lewis said. Someone asked him about the functions of imagination — how did he imagine the "Narnia Chronicles." He said that he saw a fawn leaning against a lamp post through his wardrobe. After that it got easy. I think when you ask the question, "How do you do it?" it is pretty much a thing that mandates its own direction. It looks on to us. We don't look onto it.

Hardin: What does it matter in your creative writing that you take God so seriously?

Miller: I think all writers — everybody — operate out of a world view. Christian writers like Luci and me believe that God is in the universe. He is in charge of things. We understand our need for Him, our debt to Him. Our writing, like everything else we would like to do that is good, becomes a part of our gift to Him.

Hardin: Luci, how about you?.

Shaw: I think even though I don't write always explicitly Christian or religious poetry, I write generally about the creative universe. My view of God percolates up through the words. It is almost a given for me. I don't always have to remind myself that God is at the center of my poetry. He is the ground of my being. He is there whether I am aware of it or not.

Hardin: What is different in what we are trying to say or express when we write poetry, say from writing fiction, preaching or whatever?

Shaw: I think that poetry deals almost exclusively with emotions and experience. Preaching or teaching very often deals with data or information. We are trying to inform people whereas in poetry we are trying to catch their imaginations. We are trying to help them to see in their minds what we as poets see in our minds.

Miller: Exactly. I think the words "mood" and "mystique," things like this, come when I think of poetry. I think information — teaching — comes when I think of more prosaic sorts of things. Being a pastor, it has been nerve wracking for me because I love poetry. I read a lot of it in sermons. At the same time, I am always aware that I have to teach a little something in that sermon, too. I am always caught in the world between the prose and the poetic.

Hardin: Aren't there things you simply can't say any other way but in poetry — feelings, emotions — that just don't go down an paper?

Shaw: I have often compared it to running versus walking. We walk because we have to get somewhere. We run because we are excited or happy. Poetry is a little bit that way when compared to prose.

Miller: I agree — a good definition.

Hardin: What wisdom or guidance figure in your life would you like to spend more time with than you have had available to you?

Miller: That is a great question, David. Being from Nebraska has had a lot of good things about it, but it is kind of isolated from a lot of the people I would like to touch. I have often thought that it would be wonderful if I could just sit down and have a cup of coffee with Luci every time I had a great idea, or one that I thought was great. She is five hundred miles away and so I have sort of lived and vegetated out in Nebraska. Most of my mentors I have read rather than touched their lives. She mentioned Clyde Kilby. He was quite an inspiration to me although I never got to meet him. I wish I could have. There are many other people. I think if I just had thirty minutes with them once a week it would revolutionize the way I do things.

Hardin: How about you, Luci?

Shaw: I, too, find my inspiration through reading the great writers of the past, particularly C. S. Lewis, who combined such a variety of gifts. He was also a great poet as well as a great theoretician, apologist, fiction writer. He combined so many gifts. I think today the man whose writing speaks most to my heart is Henri Nouwen. His work has that imaginative quality combined with Christian devotion and commitment that makes sense for me.

Miller: When you get somebody who couples imagination with a kind of hunger for God, those kinds of writers inevitably move me. I really want to know everything that they do. I find myself reading everything Henri Nouwen has written. There are plenty of others. I love Mother Teresa of Calcutta. Her works blaze with a kind of light that comes out of her sense of service — her sense of love for people. She couples those ideas for me.

Hardin: You are both people who are extraordinarily busy — publishing, preaching, traveling. When do you find time to be so productive in writing?

Miller: I heard Tony Campolo on a recent Chicago Sunday Evening Club telecast talk about the God of the party. In a sense, I guess that is where I am. I see life as a celebration. One should live the moment one is now connected to, that is the moment that matters. If I do that well, then I can go on to the next moment so I don't have to feel hassled or pressured because I am not being productive. This precise moment has other kinds of meaning. I try to live to the fullest, to be sure that I don't pass a whole segment of time when nothing valuable is happening.

Hardin: How about you, Luci, when do you have the time to write?

Shaw: Poetry comes when it comes. It is like having a baby. Once it is on the way, you can't do much about it. It has to happen. It has to be born. I am moving now and perversely this is the tine when I am writing extraordinary amounts of poetry. I am packing and rushing down to my computer and typing more words.

Hardin: I know that you both get it done. It must be something called inspiration. It has been great having you both here.
  


 

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